Naked Humans in UE4

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..UE4 or Unity? We’ve been testing UE4 over the last few days. Incredibly powerful real-time tool set, there is not doubt. It’s very easy to import scans in quickly and to bake lighting.

…however

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To get in the mood, please check out this track:

There are some drawbacks with UE4 currently:

  1. It doesn’t support Forward rendering.
  2. SSRR is broken in VR mode.

Without forward rendering we cannot port our awesomely realistic skin shader from Unity. UE4’s skin shader is lacking.

Reflections (ONLY)

ssrr-02 ssrr-03 ssrr-04 ssrr-01

SSRR only works in mono :( as it’s a very intensive post processing effect. SSRR’s effect really grounds in objects to their environment, as it can simulate intereflections really well. I would imagine it can be activated in some way through an ini file or a hack but it will bring the frame rate down to about 20 FPS. Without this effect UE4 VR demo’s are really lacking that extra punch of realism. You will notice this in all the on-line video demonstrations.

Hopefully Epic will be adding Forward rendering support in the coming months (?) as well as better synced MSAA in stereo and SSRR in stereo with speed optimizations.

We want to use UE4, we need to use UE4 because at this point in time Unity just cannot match the interior rendering capabilities of UE4. Similarly, UE4 at this moment in time cannot match Unity’s powerful custom shading options.

Here are some examples of some naughty naked scans in UE4. These scans are not supposed to be viewed and rendered with this shader, they will look harsh as there is no absorption of light into the skin. Using our custom skin shader in Unity they look much tastier.

..it’s as if the “RealisticRendering” room was made for this very purpose! ;)

To view these peeps in VR, set your desktop to 1280×800 and look through the Rift!

Day Rendering

day01 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-31-47-958 day04 day03 day02

UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-30-50-985 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-31-34-722 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-31-22-929 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-31-09-787 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-30-58-686

Evening Rendering

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UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-29-32-403 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-29-18-237 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-29-04-780 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-28-53-089 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-28-38-307

Night Rendering

UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-39-55-479 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-23-30-960 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-20-33-447 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-20-24-014 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-20-01-910

UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-39-38-142 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-17-49-233 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-18-00-448 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-18-16-595 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 19-50-43-907

Dark Rendering

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UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-26-27-227 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-26-30-414 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-26-45-877 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-27-00-413 UE4Editor 2014-07-05 20-27-07-690

It takes minutes to set-up these rooms with the scans. I’m very confident we can make some great looking environments with UE4 …IF we can get Forward rendering support for better skin shading.

Product Release

We are close but yet still quite far from release, we are aiming to have something ready for DK2 launch. We could release some scan products soon, in empty environments. It all depends on the demand?

Peace out!

V

 

Posted on July 5, 2014 in Virtual Reality

Responses (72)

  1. Evgen
    July 6, 2014 at 1:26 am · Reply

    What is the need to wait for DK2 launch? Launch now! :)
    At least i’ve tested your previous demo (in addition to Rift’s test) on ordinary monitor, TV, Sony HMZ glasses(winner of that tests), hi-end/low-end machines.. well.. it looked great in each case! Even low-end PC showed acceptable result. Your potential audience is not only DK owners! Each and everyone enthusiast of visual pleasures(in good meaning) will join you! You creation is amazing! Share it with other already! ;)

    • veiviev
      July 6, 2014 at 10:35 am · Reply

      Yes we do really. Honestly these experiences are REALLY designed for VR. They can be viewed in 2D mono but it will ruin the experience :( Seeing them in stereo with depth is quite something. Thanks for your passion and interest we hope to please everyone with as a high a quality product as we can.

  2. John
    July 6, 2014 at 2:33 am · Reply

    Amazing work! =)

  3. Andreas
    July 6, 2014 at 12:13 pm · Reply

    First of all:Great Job,looks really awesome!Even in 2d.(Im still waiting for the public release of the rift)

    But you are right,shader of the UE is not as good as Unity.The skins look a bit like plastic.
    Why not try Cryengine?

    • veiviev
      July 6, 2014 at 1:45 pm · Reply

      Thanks. Yeah the pre integrated skin shader is pretty bad. CryEngine doesn’t have great support for the Rift just yet. Still early days allround.

  4. Spyah
    July 6, 2014 at 8:29 pm · Reply

    Thnx for the peek, i am very much looking forward to the release.

  5. BobVR
    July 7, 2014 at 1:46 am · Reply

    Demand? I know ppl would pay whatever price you set and for any new content even models in empty room as you mentioned. $10,20,30,40,100… Just release something and see for your self the demand. IMO you should release something like $20-30 per girl pack and give rights to upgrade to the final version to be released for DK2. Hell, even like $100 for 5 girls with upgrade? or even a $30 subscription model and release something each week? Right now there is nothing like this available. Pretty soon (Q3) we’re gonna have Playgirls3D and I bet big porn companies will join the market.

    • veiviev
      July 7, 2014 at 9:56 am · Reply

      Thanks BobVR. That is encouraging to hear. We are aiming around the $10-$20 area. Maybe less. Do you have any more information on Playgirls3D? My Google’fu was blank on that one. V

  6. Spyah
    July 7, 2014 at 12:33 pm · Reply
    • veiviev
      July 7, 2014 at 1:45 pm · Reply

      Ahh yes thanks, I remember. We follow them on Twitter. They use more basic scanning techniques with Artec scanners. Looks like fun though!

  7. Fretchen83
    July 7, 2014 at 1:13 pm · Reply

    Nice update! But one more question… Is it “only” a game where you can watch naked girls without any animations or will you add sexuell content like female-male action? like 3d sexvilla or something like that.
    Here I’ve found something about Playgirls3D which BobVR talked about…
    http://blog.kamizawa.net/2014/04/23/play-girls-lets-you-play-with-jav-actress-via-oculus-rift/

    • veiviev
      July 7, 2014 at 1:47 pm · Reply

      It’s more of an experience, rather than a game. Frozen moments in time, with maybe some slight limb movement and breathing. Maybe sometimes eye follow. There is no technology that exists today that could pull of real moving humans in VR in real-time. There is no way to calculate skin sliding / rolling, muscle, fat, bone, tendons etc. Even companies like ILM and Weta have problems doing it off-line with VERY big budgets. We don’t have the resources or budgets for that. We are trying to aim for something more realistic than sexvilla. Thanks for the link.

  8. Johnny
    July 7, 2014 at 1:25 pm · Reply

    Great work! Having an actual room where the scans are in makes a huge difference to me. I really like seeing the room lighting. Maybe you can put a light switch on the wall where we can walk up to it and dim the lights etc,

    Glad you gave UE4 a chance and now now exactly what limitations you run in to. Hopefully these limitations will be resolved soon since VR is getting so much attention.

    I also searched Google for playgirls3d and came up worth nothing. Maybe BobVR has more details for us.

    • veiviev
      July 7, 2014 at 1:48 pm · Reply

      Thanks. UE4 just isn’t quite ready yet sadly. Maybe in 6-12 months but we want to launch before then. So the initial demos will be with Unity and might be quite sparse but the focus is on the girls more than the environments. Hopefully that will change once VR becomes more developed for. Then we can maybe switch to UE4. If they support adult content in their license agreement!!

  9. Fretchen83
    July 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm · Reply

    Thank you for the quick response. If you still looking for some other models you can try to get Angel Dark. One of the most beautiful and famous erotic models in the world. Just a little tip ;-)

    • veiviev
      July 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm · Reply

      Thanks, we will look into her :)

  10. Evgen
    July 7, 2014 at 8:27 pm · Reply

    Also Riley Reid would be awesome! :)

    • veiviev
      July 8, 2014 at 2:48 pm · Reply

      No doubt expensive and a “handful” :) Thanks for the inspiration.

  11. Mehster
    July 7, 2014 at 11:21 pm · Reply

    I believe that Johnny is referring to this

    http://pg-production.com/

    • veiviev
      July 8, 2014 at 2:48 pm · Reply

      Thanks, yes the appeared a little while after we did, we are following them on Twitter.

  12. DK1enthusiast
    July 8, 2014 at 6:48 pm · Reply

    If your new demo would not be compatible with the DK1 a lot of people would miss out. I, as many others have bought the dk1 as a preview experience, and am planning to buy CV1 when it comes out. I am really curious about the animations you have been working on, so I am hoping that the next demo that you will release is still DK1 compatible.

    Keep up the good work!

    • veiviev
      July 8, 2014 at 10:14 pm · Reply

      We want to try and support across multiple platforms and all VR devices, as well as DK1 + 2.

  13. nopy
    July 8, 2014 at 8:45 pm · Reply

    maybe release a dk1-movie teaser?
    off-topic: you are lightyears ahead than any other in this genre. keep it up:)

    • veiviev
      July 8, 2014 at 10:14 pm · Reply

      Good idea. Will do. Thanks for your cool comments :)

  14. Name a
    July 9, 2014 at 7:51 pm · Reply

    When did you guys at veiviev order your dk2(s)? Just wondering when you guys will get yours so you can get this up and running for dk2.

    • veiviev
      July 9, 2014 at 9:19 pm · Reply

      The day they opened up for orders. Once their payment system was working, so we might miss the first 5000 batch because of that error. We have 3x on order.

  15. Name required
    July 11, 2014 at 4:50 am · Reply

    Just wanted to let you guys know that screen space reflections work in the latest release of ue4.

    • veiviev
      July 11, 2014 at 10:33 am · Reply

      Thanks. Can you point us in the direction or changelog that mentions that screen space reflections work in stereo? in VR?

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  17. Guy
    July 11, 2014 at 6:23 pm · Reply

    Awesome! Another great offer from Veiviev, the classiest developers in the world of Adult VR!!!
    Keep up the amazing work!!! :)

  18. anonoculus
    July 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm · Reply

    I’m getting the DK2 hopefully next week, and a demo from you guys would be absolutely amazing! Hope you release one!

    • veiviev
      August 5, 2014 at 12:01 pm · Reply

      We’re working on it! All of our previous scripts need changing as the DK2 is a very different system. This will take time.

  19. a a
    July 11, 2014 at 8:43 pm · Reply

    http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2adsza/veiviev_doing_tests_for_next_demo_in_ue4/

    large discussion on this veiviev news post in case you want some feedback

  20. nooname
    July 12, 2014 at 11:24 pm · Reply

    Why only female scans?

    • veiviev
      August 5, 2014 at 12:02 pm · Reply

      Because I enjoying female models more than male? We have plans for types of models in a few years.

  21. VRSilver
    July 13, 2014 at 10:16 pm · Reply

    Regarding CryEngine, I know Cloud Imperium Games has been working closely with CryTek on getting the Rift working in CryEngine for Star Citizen. Maybe some of that will filter back up to the root distribution.

  22. Charles
    July 19, 2014 at 12:26 am · Reply

    DK2 update today, we have now payed and they are prepairing to send our kits. Are you guys ready to release something yet?

  23. Charles
    July 20, 2014 at 12:22 am · Reply

    Somehow my question got deleted. Once again somewhat rephrased: Are you prepared for next week since you said you are delivering when DK2 arrives?

    • Charles
      July 20, 2014 at 12:24 am · Reply

      And now my original question came back, what is going on here. I swear it wasn’t there a second ago. Well, sorry for double post.

  24. Philip
    July 20, 2014 at 8:11 pm · Reply

    Awesome stuff, I cant wait for more content keep up the good work

  25. bassab
    July 24, 2014 at 4:44 pm · Reply

    Is there going to be linux support in the future? You used unity for the lucid dreams demo as far as I know, so it would definitely be possible.

  26. Johnny
    July 26, 2014 at 3:49 am · Reply

    Hello there!

    Great work so far. You mentioned that you should have something to release once dk2 was available….. I now have my DK2 and so will 10K other people in the next week or so. Any news or update?

    Thanks

  27. Fretchen83
    July 26, 2014 at 11:01 am · Reply

    Soooo i’ve received my DK2. Can you tell a release date for the DK2 version?
    Thanks! ;)

  28. lainiwaku
    July 26, 2014 at 3:22 pm · Reply

    hi, do u plan to make a v3 for the dk2 ?

    • veiviev
      August 5, 2014 at 12:03 pm · Reply

      Yes, it’s going to take some time to upgrade though.

  29. BobVR
    July 26, 2014 at 4:54 pm · Reply

    Hey guys, any news? I just got my hands on the new DK2 and was wondering if you guys are going to re-compile the previous demo with the new SDK and if the new demo or paid product is coming soon? Please take my money…. Please!

    • veiviev
      August 5, 2014 at 12:04 pm · Reply

      We’re working hard, we’ve made some interesting break throughs recently that hope to filter out to the new demos soon.

  30. Name required
    July 29, 2014 at 9:04 pm · Reply

    any update on the next release and dk2 compatibility?

    • veiviev
      August 5, 2014 at 12:05 pm · Reply

      Not yet sorry, no time frame.

  31. Fretchen83
    August 1, 2014 at 9:02 am · Reply

    No news? I thought you want to make a DK2 release when DK2 are shipped :)

    • veiviev
      August 5, 2014 at 12:06 pm · Reply

      Yes, and then we found out how buggy the SDK was and what a nightmare it’s going to be to upgrade. We are working on it.

  32. moos
    August 3, 2014 at 9:28 pm · Reply

    Hey veiviev, any ideas when there will be an update for dk2? :)

    • veiviev
      August 5, 2014 at 12:08 pm · Reply

      No time frame yet I;m afraid the new SDK is tricky to implement.

  33. Laudrac
    August 4, 2014 at 8:23 am · Reply

    Hi.

    DK2 is out now hope you have a release date in mind. Im am just a guy that can’t wait for you product. Cheers laudrac

  34. jisiliu
    August 5, 2014 at 3:17 pm · Reply

    cant wait …..go go go!

  35. DiVR
    August 6, 2014 at 3:44 pm · Reply

    Your work is art, and art takes time. Take as much time as necessary. :D

    • veiviev
      August 7, 2014 at 10:19 am · Reply

      You sir are a gentleman. :)

      • DiVR
        August 9, 2014 at 2:18 am · Reply

        Seriously, today anyone with a DSLR can take a dozen of pictures of a naked woman, throw them at Photoscan and create a basic (and really poor) 3D model, then assemble it in Unity using basic shaders and consider the job done.
        Your work is visibly polished and careful about details from the very beginning, from your capture rig, mesh clean-up, texturing, skin shaders… That’s the art of it. “God is in the details”, some say, and you are doing it brilliantly.
        On top of that, there’s the new buggy 0.4 SDK.
        In conclusion, as anxious as I am to see the results of your work, pressuring you is almost a sin.
        Let the artists work with no pressure! :D

        PS: In my previous post, I meant that “art takes time”, not “art takes take”. Sorry about that.

        • veiviev
          August 9, 2014 at 12:43 pm · Reply

          Thanks for your support DiVR. We understood your previous comment, most appreciated :)

  36. DiVR
    August 6, 2014 at 3:45 pm · Reply

    Your work is art, and art takes time. Take as much time as necessary. :D

  37. Laudrac
    August 9, 2014 at 5:57 pm · Reply

    DiVR thanks i think what you descript is really correct, it is only that there is no product out there that is even Close to what Veiviev delivered with their early Demos and we just can’t wait what else they could Show us. Perhaps we are also just afraid to read once that pecause of Out of Money the Close and not publish the product and that more than bad as many People would Support und pay for it. Me included.

    • veiviev
      August 13, 2014 at 5:01 pm · Reply

      Thanks for your support.

  38. alzex
    September 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm · Reply

    i’d love to see some scan products in empty environments.
    it looks fantastic !

    • veiviev
      September 15, 2014 at 4:26 pm · Reply

      Thanks, this would be easy to do!

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